Backlit Keyboard Peripheral Vision Issues

[y2k2r2d2]

I have never used a backlit keyboard . So I bought a  chinese Backlit Keyboard . These are them on a wholesale  http://yystech.en.alibaba.com/product/914802947-210178058/Novelty_Electronic_Product_for_Group_Sourcing.html

The lights are Blue. They are adjustable to 3 levels of brightness.

 

One Issue I faced on complete darkness was the keyboard lights  persisted on my vision as I glanced back and forth my Keyboard and Laptop Screen. I thought this was called Ghosting ! (lol English) . As I have a habit to look at keyboard during typing, This is very difficult and gives strain . On really low light this was the case. Normally they are good.


Is this normal for Backlit Keyboard? What Lighting Is  suggested?

No Particular Gaming requrements but typing/coding
 

 

 

[zhangm Supervisor]

It's not so much a function of your keyboard as it is your eyes. Basically, the light coming from the letters photobleaches the photoreceptors (the ones that respond to blue light in this case) in your eyes, making them unable to quickly respond to a changes in what you're looking at. I suppose a crude analogy would be that you're accumulating temporary "dead pixels" in your eyes. As you know, they recover over time.

 

There are three solutions; get a dimmer keyboard or reduce the brightness on your current keyboard if you have not done so, stop typing in the dark, and learn to touch-type so that you don't need to stare at the letters. For what it's worth, I use a white illuminated keyboard from Perixx on the lowest brightness setting, and don't have any issues, though I also touch-type, and don't work in complete darkness.

[+E.Worm Jimmy Subscriber¹]

I LOVE my illuminated logitech keyboard.   i really do.    it is white light.    depending on the ambient light i use all 3 settings of brightness.   never had an issue.

 

i tried a few others.     blue is horrible. it is irritating to the eyes.   green is a bit better but not by too much.    

red is pretty good (red light does not affect your night vision.  you can use red flashlight in the dark, and still have night vision - so red is perfect in the dark)

 

however white is still the most neutral, and obstructive for me.  blue is just a bad choice if you want to use it in the dark, as seems to hurt the eyes

 

 

i remember how much i disliked WV jetta old model where the dash was mostly blue!   it looked real cool at first, but driving at night made my eyes tired.

[TAZMINATOR]

I LOVE my illuminated logitech keyboard.   i really do.    it is white light.    depending on the ambient light i use all 3 settings of brightness.   never had an issue.

 

I have 2 of them ... I love them! No issues!

[y2k2r2d2]

I noticed Directing Some light from the monitor helps significantly ! I will have to manage it that way If I am to go on 'typing in the dark'

Blue does look cool! Which is why I got these. :D

So Go for White or Red , Right.
 

[compl3x]

I LOVE my illuminated logitech keyboard.   i really do.    it is white light.    depending on the ambient light i use all 3 settings of brightness.   never had an issue.

 

 

Which model? I have the G710+ (mechanical) which has white backlighting and it works great. I think they just released the G910 which has the option to change the colours but that seems like a novelty more than anything else.

[+E.Worm Jimmy Subscriber¹]

Which model? I have the G710+ (mechanical) which has white backlighting and it works great. I think they just released the G910 which has the option to change the colours but that seems like a novelty more than anything else.

http://www.ncix.com/detail/logitech-k740-ultra-slim-illuminated-backlit-ca-35312-1359.htm

 

 

the only look i like.    classy.  clear.   basic.   stylish.

 

 

 

i hated every gaming keyboard i have tried.     normal illuminated keyboard is just fine for gaming.    especially when it looks fine.

 

 

i googled both keyboard you mention.

 

no way i would enjoy them. they look and feel out of place. i am not hardcore enough to need more then just a flat illuminated keyboard and a classic gaming mouse.   both look and feel great. no gimmicks!!!

[TAZMINATOR]

http://www.ncix.com/detail/logitech-k740-ultra-slim-illuminated-backlit-ca-35312-1359.htm

 

 

That's the same one I have.  :)

[+E.Worm Jimmy Subscriber¹]

My mouse

 

 

 

posted the wrong one earlier.   this one is as basic as they come, all black, only 2 extra side buttons and works like magic!  wired too.

 

honestly, i don't see the gaming hype (i am not WoW type to program my keyboard and mouse, if they even do that?)

 

i just want practical (so... wired and backlit keyboard and wired mouse)   and stylish - which both have in spades :)

[TAZMINATOR]

My mouse

 

 

 

posted the wrong one earlier.   this one is as basic as they come, all black, only 2 extra side buttons and works like magic!  wired too.

 

honestly, i don't see the gaming hype (i am not WoW type to program my keyboard and mouse, if they even do that?)

 

i just want practical (so... wired and backlit keyboard and wired mouse)   and stylish - which both have in spades :)

 

[+E.Worm Jimmy Subscriber¹]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you mouse looks ok, but it has nothing on revolution MX

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

this was my wireless baby... i went through 3 of those...  but it is not available for purchase anymore. that was my FAVORITE MOUSE EVER.

(also, not so much reliable, unfortunately... as i did not replace 3 of them out of warranty. no.. they kept dying like flies...)

 

 

 

blackadder black wired is my choice now.   however, if my revolution will come back, i will switch in a second.   screw the wires.... screw the minimal look....

 

give me back my revolution mx  logitech screwed up a bit... killing off a perfect mouse..   really, that thing was PERFECT.  programmable yet minimal, stylish yet functional. 2 scroll wheels!

[compl3x]

 

 

 

 

 

Looks a lot like my Death Adder 2013

[TAZMINATOR]

Wow. I have not seen side wheel in that mouse before... Interesting.

 

Mine is a Performance MX... it's still available for purchase...

[+E.Worm Jimmy Subscriber¹]

Looks a lot like my Death Adder 2013

 

basically a same mouse :)

[+E.Worm Jimmy Subscriber¹]

Wow. I have not seen side wheel in that mouse before... Interesting.

 

yeah, it was amazing. very simple concept, but it worked GREAT.

 

 

i am so upset they killed it off.   your performance MX does not have the looks, or the extra scroll wheel

 

 

 

it is very rare i fall in love with pc hardware, but this revolution MX is the only mouse that failed me twice, yet i paid the full super expensive price to get it again. 

i hate that they discontinued it, without anything to replace it.   2 scroll wheels.......  man i found so many uses for that.  i loved it.  better then anything with extra regular buttons....

[TAZMINATOR]

How much did you buy it for?

[+E.Worm Jimmy Subscriber¹]

just looking around.  Revolution MX are selling for $400-500 now...        Guess I was not the only one who loved the design.  Logitech should do a revival.  They never made a better (overall) mouse!

How much did you buy it for?

 

originally... around $120... next 2 mouses... maybe $100...but never much cheaper.

 

it was never cheap.. and even when the mouse failed, i wanted a new one.

 

[TAZMINATOR]

Yup.. I saw that price earlier... I was like WTF?  lol

 

 

You could send email to them and ask for revival. Never hurt to try.  :)

[francescob]

You could send email to them and ask for revival. Never hurt to try.  :)

 

Better ask them to stop releasing hardware with such shoddy quality. My G35 headphones broke twice despite treating them absolutely the best possible way, my MK700 became untypable (it's the first keyboard where I've ever seen keys becoming increasingly harder to press with time, cheapest design ever), the marathon mouse MK710 kept losing connection when moving it quickly due to lousy battery contacts. And it's better to not even mention the double-click problems they still haven't seem to have ever bothered solving. In the meanwhile no hardware from Microsoft has failed me yet (but I heard their BT stuff dies pretty often).

[TAZMINATOR]

Better ask them to stop releasing hardware with such shoddy quality. My G35 headphones broke twice despite treating them absolutely the best possible way, my MK700 became untypable (it's the first keyboard where I've ever seen keys becoming increasingly harder to press with time, cheapest design ever), the marathon mouse MK710 kept losing connection when moving it quickly due to lousy battery contacts. And it's better to not even mention the double-click problems they still haven't seem to have ever bothered solving. In the meanwhile no hardware from Microsoft has failed me yet (but I heard their BT stuff dies pretty often).

 

Each company have ups and downs... I have no problems with my mice or keyboards.

 

You might have bad luck because your stuff might have been defective...  Should have asked for the replacement.

[+E.Worm Jimmy Subscriber¹]

Better ask them to stop releasing hardware with such shoddy quality. My G35 headphones broke twice despite treating them absolutely the best possible way, my MK700 became untypable (it's the first keyboard where I've ever seen keys becoming increasingly harder to press with time, cheapest design ever), the marathon mouse MK710 kept losing connection when moving it quickly due to lousy battery contacts. And it's better to not even mention the double-click problems they still haven't seem to have ever bothered solving. In the meanwhile no hardware from Microsoft has failed me yet (but I heard their BT stuff dies pretty often).

 

name me one hardware company that makes awesome mouse and keyboards, that does not have a bad track record with hardware failure.???

 

 

 

 

 

 

none... i tell you... none.    no company has amazing innovative designs, and has a good reliability record!

[francescob]

Each company have ups and downs... I have no problems with my mice or keyboards.

 

You might have bad luck because your stuff might have been defective...  Should have asked for the replacement.

I did, they simply make stuff designed not to last. Now I have a G710+ and a G500s and already had started getting issues with the backlight and the rubber on the mouse wearing off, rubber pads detaching, etc. and it never happened with any other mouse I ever had. My same-priced Sennheiser headphones have already lasted 2 years (and Sennheiser is not really "appreciated" for their build quality either) and I put them on-off several times each day.

name me one hardware company that makes awesome mouse and keyboards, that does not have a bad track record with hardware failure.???

 

none... i tell you... none.    no company has amazing innovative designs, and has a good reliability record!

 

It depends on the models of course, that's why I said MS BT mices die often (the electronics die) after a few years. But Logitech (and Razer, and other brands) are clearly on completely worse different levels. It's 2014 and I still hear about Logitech mices with the dreaded double-click issue. Of course this is exclusively talking about their quality control, not the design or anything else.

[The Evil Overlord]

I would recommend getting a branded keyboard, I use the Logitech G19, and turn the brightness down to a point where the light is a faint glow from the keyboard lettering when using at night, (an advantage of the Logitech brand is you can set up profiles for use like that, and you can have pretty much any colour you like)

[TAZMINATOR]

Some of things get the defective parts in the production line... that's why companies have ups and downs... such as good/bad reviews on the products...

 

No one is perfect... 

[francescob]

Some of things get the defective parts in the production line... that's why companies have ups and downs... such as good/bad reviews on the products...

 

No one is perfect... 

When the same defective parts happen to be used for almost a decade it doesn't sound any longer like just a coincidence. If a desktop set from Microsoft can last me 10+ years being used all day long with plastics, even the mouse rubber and pads, still in perfect order while anything from Logitech wears down in a microscopic fraction of that time it doesn't really sound like a coincidence or bad-luck either. In the 90s I was buying only Logitech, the hardware kept wearing down/breaking just as often (I tossed away several of their older desktop sets I still had a few months ago), I went with the first expensive set from Microsoft and never had to change it again (until their brilliant hardware team decided to create a new software and drop the support for all older models). Anybody just tells me "just send it to repair in warranty" (which I do), "Logitech's support is awesome", but I want hardware that lasts not hardware that I have to hope they replace for free every damn time it breaks. Also the Microsoft hardware was extremely easy to clean and to service (even later models), on my Logitech hardware I had to remove the mouse pads every damn time (and they'd never stick in place again until I replace them) and oh God, the amount of problems I had with the MK710 when even the slightest amount of dirt went inside the wheel or the sensor (and it happened extremely often due to how the wheel zone was designed) was unbelievable.

 

That said I don't believe Microsoft made everything perfect either, their quality dropped rapidly from the desktop elite 7000 onwards, their gigantic wireless receiver never worked well unless stuck right below the keyboard, their new drivers are horrible, their touch-based mouses are something straight from hell, etc. And nobody truly makes "premium quality computer hardware" any longer, only "expensive" or "premium hardware" where the money is rarely spent on quality but rather on advertising and promotions, still only Logitech hardware quality has been consistently bad for me in a long long time and gives me the creeps just thinking about it.